Tuesday, August 16, 2016

Suicide Squad 2 wiki update 8 16 16

In March 2016, it was announced that Warner Bros. would bring Ayer and Smith back for a sequel, to be shot in 2017. The following month, Ayer expressed an interest in making the sequel R-rated Fukuhara has stated that she wants to explore Katana's backstory in the sequel.

Ayer would be a great idea.
Smith, I guess cuz of star power and everyone praising for whatever reason.
I don't know about Katana, but if you're going to use her, give her more of a story.

10 Dumb things in Suicide Squad, the 2016 film


  1. Deadpool's daughter. Why do I give a shit? In a movie about antiheroes, you make Deadpool basically a good guy outside of his headhunting, which is basically what Rick Flagg does anyway.
  2. Harley Quinn's character at certain point of the film: it really made it hard to get into. I understood certain parts that she was supposed to be a woman obsessed with the Joker. But when she had to keep doing the puns, get strapped in by the police, go down at the Joker's strip bar, and keep supposedly joking about death, where there was no punchline, it really seemed to be elementary fanfiction.net garbage attempts at looking cool rather than being cool.
  3. Machines: Why does the Enchantress not like machines? Commercialism? Henry Ford and the Assemblyline? Lack of human evolution due to reliance on other objects? I guess she might've mentioned that they didn't praise the Enchantress and her brother as Gods anymore. But so what?
  4. The Flagg-Enchantress romance. Your top arm and a being consuming one of your staff are together and you don't keep tabs on them? I understand that she teleports, and that Waller's character is supposed to be that of a right wing incompetent, but this just seemed obvious, elementary and stupid.
  5. June says choose between killing the enchantress over saving her. But he needs the Enchantress for his job and I don't get her reasoning for wanting to kill the enchantress. She's part of her body, she'll die without the Enchantress, they both have the same job anyway, (to serve Waller,) and Rick Flagg himself is a mercenary, so he's no better than the Enchantress anyway.
  6. Harley Quinn cell. I understand this is supposed to be for humor, but where DID she get a cell phone to call the Joker?
  7. Boy Slipknot was smart trying to escape in a Battle Royale ripoff.
  8. Why did they introduce Harley Quinn's powers near the end of the film? Also, Batman knocking her out makes the Metahuman Acme Chemicals explanation questionable.
  9. Rick Flagg calls Deadshot a serial killer with credits. Rick Flagg is no better again, and gets paid by Waller to kill people just like Deadshot does.
  10. Killing Harley Quinn. What does Waller gain from Killing Harley Quinn in the film? She'd lose a bargaining chip against Deadshot, by giving him something he wants over a woman who just ran away and could be recaptured. Harley joined later anyway making that point even worse. Their mission was to defeat the Enchantress and save the world, having nothing to do with Harley Quinn. A helicopter shoots them down later anyway, so there was no point testing Deadshot.

Suicide Squad 2016 film thoughts

So I watched Suicide Squad. Should've been like a Reservoir Dogs meets Battle Royale with DC characters. But because of the edit a classic was ruined. So it's hard to grade other than that it can't be five stars.

This was sort of a weird movie with a reaction that was about as weird to me as people were to Batman vs Superman. In Batman vs Superman, a lot of people cited petty reasons to dislike the film like useless cameos, or some bs, whereas the real problem was that Batman's supposed to be an anti-Batman savior, but ends up killing more people than Superman does. In Suicide Squad, some people love the movie, some people hate the movie, and I again disagree with both sides, as I don't believe either side to be right. People complain of a lame villain, like Will Smith playing the protagonist, not having enough Joker, etc.. Meanwhile, I do agree however with one topic.

It could've been more consistent with the post-production works, rivaling that of Scott Pilgrim, but maybe it would've distracted like 60s Batman. Also, the awesome sets in themselves tell a good story too.

I mean it's sorta not even a movie technically, considering how much the original work got chopped up.

The soundtrack is great, although I don't know why they used that Eminem track.

Everyone keeps saying Deadshot's the main character, but I sorta hated his storyline so much that it didn't matter. The film was sorta weird. No real main character. So ensemble-y that there didn't seem to be a protagonist. Will Smith probably agreed to do the film if he was the lead, which is weird, since this seems to be a film that at least SHOULD'VE BEEN too violent for his tastes (NOT TRUE cuz of I am Legend,) but they fucked up censoring it later anyway. My colleagues try and write excuses for his daughter wanting to save Batman over him, but I just thought it was poor probably post-edit writing in a film, where Harley Quinn is used for torture porn. Deadpool doesn't want to shoot the good guy? The good guy just used his daughter against him, possibly in a plot with Amanda Waller according to my colleagues.

Amanda Waller I felt was fairly good. She was always a character of right wing ignorance and played that way here. A bit of humor with her logic actually helped her character than most critics gave: people- politicians, people of power have these logic holes all the time in real life and really made her character more realistic, which is sorta regretable, since she softens up by the end of the film for no reason.

Harley Quinn herself was a bit debatable. She doesn't have much of an arc although her coping of people outside of the Joker was a bit of something.

Also, they sorta implied that she was a metahuman WAAY after she was introduced making the story very confusing. (Her flashback includes a scene where she goes into ACME chemicals.)

A lot of Quinn's humor isn't really humor. It's like Adam Sandler, Marlon Wayans, Disaster movie "jokes," that aren't witty, are out of place and in this case, sorta actually very mentally ill and disturbin that belong on fanfiction.net. Pink Ranger stories with Tortura.

I hear a lot of complaints about The Joker not being in the movie, but I swear he was in the film at least five times. That being said, he's horribly written. Part of the problem may be has no antagonist to fight. Part of the problem is that since they didn't go NC-17 with the film they had to edit out his scene where he displays his character torturing Harley Quinn, which would've explained some of what did his character tick. But whatever, censor that, but not him saying he wants to torture her, or that he wants to, my main concern for the film.

The Joker's men have some sort of furry hat fetish or pretend they're Batman.

El Diablo had a good arc of wanting to be in control of his powers, although there may be a ripoff of Mystique's "then don't" (control.)
His henshin was a good surprise and added excitement to the film. His effects were really well done.

I liked Katana where she was just a loyal henchmen of Waller and Flagg, but when they give her this storyline about having a dead husband in her blade, it really bogged down her character, since it didn't really have anything to do with the film, albeit like Enchantress and Harley, this could've been incorporated into a stronger theme. Her whole thing was that she was a cold blooded person of the military with some sort of mystical origin compared to that of Flagg's.
Also, she takes off her mask too?! She's not Will Smith. She ain't no 5 star celebrity. No one needs to see her face.

The Enchantress was a lot better than most people said:
Also I didn't quite get why everyone didn't like the Enchantress as the villain:
Human: she's a love interest for Rick Flagg. They could've done a parallel with Harley and her but whatever. I'm not rating it 5/5 anyway.
Witch: her whole thing is about taking over with her species. The culture involved is way more interesting than lame Nazi ripoff HYDRA who rarely have origin. (Although other segments of this film have this problem too as the DCEU has problems with keeping within their universe or convincingly using real life references such as Phil Jackson, Iran and terrorism.) Her antimachine thing is lame too, but they told the story about Enchantresses species in two seconds that Marvel hasn't done with HYDRA in like 4 movies

The use of Batman was really good, capturing the Suicide Squad. Not so much for the Flash, but he changed it up a bit at least. Confusing for Batman though, was that they have that whole cameo in the end, which confuses if the Justice League are good guys or not, helping out Waller.
Surprised no Batman with Croc, albeit I don't know what he would do about Croc, albeit Batsy beat up metahuman Harley.

Killer Croc didn't have much of a character other than being a comedic badass mutant, but who cares? He's a supporting character. No need to give him anymore than that. Short and sweet.

Captain Boomerang was basically a Nagi, a joke of a character where his only trait is how useless he was. It's a funny joke though. He barely even uses his Boomerangs in the film.

As I'm done with the characters, I'd like to discuss the plot. It isn't really a plot, more of a mission to save the world.